writing. he had come a long way to this blah lawn and his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it. he did not know that it was already behind him, somewhere back in that vast obscurity behind the ski where the dark fields of the republic rolled on. he believed in the green light, the future that year by year recedes before us. it eluded us then, but tomorrow we will run faster, stretch our arms further and one fine morning, so we beat on. boats against the current, brn back ceaselessly into the past. that's "hardball." that really is "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. mole tic politics nation with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to for you tuning in. i'm al sharpton live in philadelphia. tonight's lead, hey republicans, elections have consequences. remember that. they may not like it, but some republicans are starting to cave

into reality. and ignore their tea party dead enders. president obama is healthy. he's planning a national campaign to rally support for his vision of fairness. the same vision that american voted for on election day. he'll take his message beyond the beltway asking the public to pressure republicans back in washington about raising taxes on the rich. some in the gop know they lost badly and are starting to deal with it. conservative pundit bill crystal surprised a lot of people when he went on fox news and started talking sense. >> it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it a million. really republican party going to

fall on on a bunch of millionaires? >> it won't kill the country? take the president's offer? that almost sounds rational. and now some republicans in congress are also admitting they need to compromise. but not all conservatives are able to handle the new reality. in fact, some are beginning to lose it. for years grover norquist has been bullying gop lawmaker there is to never ever agreeing to raise taxes. but now he's claiming this election wasn't about taxes at all. >> the president was committed -- elected on the basis that he was not romney and that romney was a poopy head and you should vote against romney. >> really? that's how one of their leading guys explains their drumming. maybe republican shoes just take their toys and go home, too. far too many in the gop just

can't handle the truth of what happened in this election. president obama won and the american people clearly support the balanced approach to taxes and the deficit that he campaigned on over and over again. >> i refuse to accept any roach that isn't balanced. i'm not going to ask students and seniors and middle class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes. >> the president wants fairness. and so do the american people. republicans need to show they can handle the truth. >> joining me now a proud member of the progressive cause tuesday, and cynthia tucker, visiting professor of journalism

at the university of georgia. thank you both for joining me. >> good to be here. >> thank you, reverend al. >> let me start with you, congresswoman. do you think republicans are feeling the pressure when it comes to raising taxes on the rich? >> there's no question about it. john boehner was sounding, you know, like there might be some way to compromise on that issue. and i love bill crystal, what he had to say about it. who is somewhat of a leader of the more conservative branch of the republican party. so i'm optimistic. but we don't need all the republicans to go along. we need enough rational republicans and then the democrats can provide the rest of of the votes in we get a fair compromise. but anything less than fair that protects the middle class, the president has said he's not going to sign it.

>> cynthia, the "new york times" reported on a conference call john boehner the speaker had and it's very interesting what tone he set and a gop senator. let me give you the quote p the quote from the "times" is that their party lost badly, mr. boehner said, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked much of the last two years. members on the call subdued and dark, murmured words of support. that's interesting. and then you had senator bob corker, a key member of the banking committee, went on fox news and said the wealthy should contribute more. listen to this. >> we know there has to be revenues and i think -- look, i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's in the willing to contribute more as long as they know we

solved the problem. >> i mean, we know there has to be more revenues. i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat that's not willing to contribute more. it's amazing what an election can do to some people. >> indeed it does sound as though reality is beginning to intrude because all we've heard up to now is absolute no we won't raise taxes for the wealthy at all. so it sounds like reality is beginning to break through. however, having said that, i'm still a little concerned that republicans hope to do is just get away with acting as though they're ready to compromise. gesturing towards compromise. i think the president has to watch them very carefully. he cannot allow them to say just let the tax -- let the -- go

ahead and renew tax breaks for the wealthy and we'll work on this next year in some big grand bargain over tax reform. don't let them get away with that because they will then have suckered the president and democrats and not be willing to tow the line when it comes down to it. so i think the president has to insist that they sign on to a deal right now for keeping the tax cuts only for people under $250,000. i think he has to be very careful and not let them get away with something. >> now, he did say, congresswoman, that he had to bend, he was willing to sign right now an extension of the tax cut for the middle class and then negotiate about the wealthier later. and that was the position he took in his comment.

and paul krugman wrote expressing liberal fears about grand bargains on taxes and entitlements. he wrote you know what could really produce the kind of dispirited bates that was supposed to doom obama in 2012, a sellout on key democratic values as a part of a grand bargain. do you have those fears, congresswoman? >> you know, i don't. the fact that the pld in his acceptance speech and then the day after when he talked about the fiscal cliff made it very, very clear. and the fact that he's going out on the stump now to talk to the american people who already agree that the wealthiest americans need to pay more. the fact it that he said he's not going to let senior citizens-wil citizens-wi -- half of all americans make under # $2,000 a year. are you serious, you're going to

take it out of those people and have them pay down the deficit? no. but since we all agree that the middle class tax cuts should not be eliminated, he's right, let's just go ahead and do that right now. but i do not see this president selling out not after 332 electoral votes. no, he is not going to do that. >> now, cynthia, the fact is that the congresswoman is right, according to nbc exit polling, americans want to see the wealthy taxes raised when you look at the k3i9 polls. 70% of democrats, 59% of independents, 42% of republicans. so it would be the will of the american people when you look at the exit polls of what they want. and yet we're faced with the fact that republicans have to look at though they maintain the

house 54.3 billion voted democrats to go to congress, 53.8 million voted for republicans. actually more people voted for democratic members of congress than republicans even though we didn't gain the majority on the democratic side. >> indeed. and it is absolutely true that the president campaigned on this throughout the past year. he's been saying this for the last four years. and when he was reelected, he clearly had a mandate and, yes, i use the word mandate very deliberately here to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans and keep taxes where they are for people who earn less than $250,000 a year. but let's be very close that while there are signs of reality breaking through in some places, they're not breaking through everywhere. mitch mcconnell, not minority leader, still sounds much like

he sounded when obama was first elected. he doesn't sound as if he's ready to compromise. and business leaders are now saying we're ready to fix the debt problem. i want business leaders to start a campaign that says i'm ready for the president to raise my taxes. that's where they could have some real influence with the republican party i think. so when business leaders get ready to say that, i think compromise a fair and balanced compromise could be close. >> well, we didn't want business leaders to have that campaign in quiet rooms. congresswoman, cynthia, thank you so much for your time tonight. coming up, inside the petraeus investigation. we're learning much more about the two women at the center of it. nbc's national investigative

correspondent meichael isikoff joins us. plus karl rove under fire from the billionaire boys club. and a new video showing president obama behind the scenes with cam been staffers. you will want to see what happens in this one. you're watching politics nation on msnbc. well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know.

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welcome back to politics nation. we're learning new details about the affair that ended david petraeus' career as head of the cia. nbc reports the unraveling of the affair began as a cyber harass the probe late this spring. that's when jill kelly, a close friend of the petraeus family, reported she had received several anonymous and harassing e-mails. the e-mails referred to kelly socializing with other generals

in the tampa area, suggesting it was inappropriate and should stop. and warning her to stay away from petraeus. ultimately will the fbi traced the e-mails back to petraeus' biography paula broadwell. and during the investigation, they discovered e-mails from pa tray to us broadwell that showed the two were having an extramarital affair. there's still a lot we don't know about the petraeus resignation. why would paula broadwell send threatening e-mails to jill kelley? did broadwell have access to confidential information? while there are legitimate questions that need to be answered, some on the right are back to their old tricks trying to turn this into something it's not. >> this is an administration that is practicing now serial deception. this is a very convenient way to get the administration out of a very, very difficult situation.

but this is inevitable. it's like water gate. >> it's been going on for several months and now they're appearing that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. just doesn't add up. >> i would suggest that we have a joint swleelect committee of house and senate members, not do this together, not have three different committees going off in three different directions so we can get to the about the bot like we did in water gate and iran contra. >> let's just focus on getting the facts. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details in this case over the last few days. first of all, michael, thanks for being here tonight. >> good to be with you. >> what do we know about how this investigation got started?

the e-mails that paula broadwell september to jill kelly, is that really how it started? >> well, that's basically it. in late may jill kelley, who is in tampa, has known general petraeus for quite some time, is quite prominent socially in the tampa area, starts getting these anonymous e-mails that are quite menacing a source close to her says, suggesting that she's been socializing inappropriately with high level generals from the u.s. southern command and central command which are based in tampa and that she ought to stop it. and as the e-mails continue, they make references to her socializing with why not pa tge petraeus. and perhaps more menacing, if you will, the e-mails seem to

indicate that the anonymous sender of the e-mails knows the comings and goings of general petraeus and some of the generals. and that's what causes her to turn the e-mails over to the fbi and the fbi to take them quite seriously. >> now, what can you you tell us about paula broadwell who they traced these e-mails back to? >> well, look, it took some time because as one source told me, she had covered her tracks quite women and it was not at all clear who the sender was originally. but they did trace it back to paula bloodwell. paula broadwell clearly was quite public about her friendship with general petraeus. i was actually on a panel with paula broadwell at the aspen security forum last july in

which she was quite open about how much access she had to general petraeus when she was writing the biography of him, how she also had access to classified information. this made people uncomfortable. she made a point of saying she had a high level security clearance and that she didn't consider herself a journalist. and i should point out that there were a lot of people close to general petraeus who wondered why he had chosen paula broadwell who had no background as a journalist, no background as a biographer, to be his biographer. but this was at a stage in general petraeus' career when very few people were going to question his judgment. >> because a lot of people are asking if broadwell had access to too much confidential information. listen to what she said about the benghazi consulate attacks in a speech just last month. listen to this, michael.

>> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia annex had actually taken a couple of libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. so that's still being vetted. >> i mean, is that something she should have known, is there evidence that she had confidential information about benghazi or anything? >> well, that would be certainly something you would want to ask her about. because that is an entreeging tidbit. of course the cia has denied this is the case. if it were true, it would seem to potentially violate one of president obama's original executive orders. and she does say in there that this is still being vet vetted suggesting this was a piece of intelligence that was not clear,

although you would think the cia would know for sure whether it was hold be a prisoner in b benghazi. . >> we'll be watching. michael, thanks for your time tonight. coming up, president obama's emotional speech to staffers was one surprise. and today, a new behind the scenes video of the president with his staffers. you need to see what happens in this one. plus the gop in crisis. republicans are throwing karl rove under the bus. and it could get very ugly. and who is pointing fingers at rush limbaugh? it's a big story tonight. stay with us. i always wait until the last minute.

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we're back with another great look of president obama behind the scenes with his campaign staff. last week we saw president obama getting emotional as he thanked campaign staffers for all their hard work. today we see him back in august with his staffers. watch what happens when sarah told the president she just got engaged. >> what's your story? >> i just got engaged yesterday. and it was to someone who works in an lit ticks. >> so i'm responsible? >> you're responsible. >> what's his name? >> matt. >> matt. what's matt?

come over here. hey, let me point at it. >> but the president didn't just let sarah show off her new rock, he wanted full story of the proposal. >> and then i said we gave a high five and i said five years. put a ring on it. >> put a ring on it. >> it's not every day you get to see the president channel beyonce. and while those staffers are enjoying a big win, last week the gop is in full blown silver wall. that's next. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters?

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that post-election hangover. even newt beginning rich is jg shocked but how badly mitt romney lost. >> if you would have said this to me a ago, would i have been dumb founded. >> mr. gingrich is dumb founded and apparently so he is is this guy. he has the romney logo tattooed on his face. now he says he's totally disappoint disappointed. man, i'm the guy who has egg all over his face. but instead of egg, it's a big romney/ryan tattoo he said. good luck with that. but, hey, if he wants a matching t-shirt, they're on sale. this romney merchandise is now selling for 60% off at reagan national airport. get your holiday shopping done early. even facebook's giving the governor a cold shoulder.

so ath rsaturday romney was los 593 friends per hour. and someone else the party is trying to defriend. the $300 million man, karl rove. everyone is still talking about his on air election night meltdown. and it's not just donors who are piling on. he's getting needled in the opening credits of the simpsons. ♪ the simpsons >> i will not concede the election until karl rove gives me permission. and here is how you know it's bad for the former gop king maker. snl is piling on. >> hello, mitt. >> hello, karl rove. >> i still think you you can win

ohio. now might not be the best time, but could i were borrow $300 million? is it possible -- i'm okay. >> all jokes aside, what we're seeing is a republican party that has a silver wand in his hands. the blame is being passed all around. rove, the mopollsterses, rechb rush limbaugh. how will it end. thank you both if being here. dana, let me start with you. rove is at the he center of a gop civil car.

will he end up being the scapegoat? >> this loss is too big for just one scapegoat. with y but he's certainly an inviting candidate because there's not a lot of love lost in many quarters there. he's been doing this for any number of cycles coming out with terrific predictions about the big roll licking victory that was to come and even when the victories came, they weren't as big as he thought. this time we actually saw it fall apart in live television and the pact that there were hundreds of millions of dollars wasted as many people feel. but i expect four years from now karl rove will find a way to get himself right back there. george w. bush called him the turd blossom. so he manages to make the best of a bad situation. i expect he'll do that again. >> that's a graphic description.

the gop rick tyler former strategist for the pro super pac, he says the effort was, quote, a colossal failure. i don't think donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out that the architect didn't know what he was talking about. that's a pretty hard charge. >> you know, reverend, as a texan, i was going to jump in as the defense of karl rove because you can't underestimate him. he's like the phoenix that keeps rising again. but most importantly, i think what we'll see in the future is his ability to reach out to latinos. and that's what republicans desperately need to do in the short to medium term. and karl rove is the guy who can do it. he gets it.

so after the hard feelings are set aside, he's going to be called upon to strategize andbly latinos back into the tent. >> well, we can talk about that but there's a lot more than rove. i want to finish this point first, dandana. rush limbaugh is having to increasingly move the party to the right is another thing being attacked. politico points out this quote, for nearly six years since president bush's second term went south, republicans have been effectively without a leader. and into that vacuum has stepped a series of conservative figures whose incentives in most cases are not to win votes but to make money and score ratings by being provocative and even outlandish. that's very interesting point

there, dana. >> yeah, i think so, reverend. and this whole notion that there is some civil war under way within the republican party, the only problem with that is it's basically over the tea party won that war. it's more like the invasion of gra na grena grenada. you have john boehner suggest that maybe he's going to be the leader. you can already see them sharpening their knives for him. it seems to me and then he'll be replaced by somebody else who will be in the same position, it just seems that anybody who will try to get into some position of being rational and talking straight is going to be undermined by his own party. >> victoria, you do have some moderate republicans increasingly calling out the conservative meet i can't establishment. listen to this for example. >> the conservative followship has been pleased, exploited and

lied to. >> we have the media elite in a sense on the right, they're making millions of dollars talking about all the incendiary aspects where we need solutions. >> if i were a donor, my biggest problem would be that i was laid to. the conservative media establishment, they lied to the donors. they lied to the base. they lied to everybody about how romney was ahead. >> now, victoria, can these more moderate voices at least moderate compared to the tea party, can they gain traction and influence in the republican party? >> i believe there will, but it will be a long road because these moderates are very frustrated. not only did they lose this election, because they also lost a huge business investment.

there's millions of dollars thrown down the drain and their confidence in the establishment in letting the tea party take the lead is going to start shortening and we'll see them take a tighter and teeter rein in terms of the party leadership. because ultimately they're the ones with the cash. >> and see, dana, i thinkleader. because ultimately they're the ones with the cash. >> and see, dana, i thinkin ter leadership. because ultimately they're the ones with the cash. >> and see, dana, i think touches on another point because what's interesting is how badly the gop's internal polling was. romney campaign expected to win colorado, florida and virginia. it expected to be neck and neck in ohio and have a shot in pennsylvania. clearly they were wrong on all counts. but wasn't just team romney. just look at what they thought about the indiana senate race. one national republican poll showed tea party candidate richard murdoch running even

with joe donnelly. and he lost by sick pointck six. so it was across the board they were totally off base. >> two things going on here. one could just be their numbers were bad. but if people knew how far back they actually were, you would have as in many of the public polls indeed were showing, you would have had, first of all, financial troubles. the donors would be bailing and more importantly, the voters don't want to be on board with a loser. you want to create that sense of momentum. now, clearly this fell well short of that. the problem that you have here, though, is that in the house of representatives, these guys think they ran a terrific campaign and the republicans think that they have been rewarded for the very positions that romney was punished for holding. so nobody will tell these guys now to start compromising. >> which is why no one can

relax. but there are things that make one begin to wonder whether the civil war on the republican party is going to last a little more than a few weeks. i was just handed former bush adviser karen hughes said some tough words for people like todd akin and richard murdoch. she wrote, if another republican man says anything about rape other than it is a horrific violent crime, i want to personally cut out his tongue. the college age daughters of many of my friends voted for obama because they were completely turned off by the knee neanderthal comments like the suggestion of legitimate rape. so on one hand some of the far right saying they're right and plowed of their stance and others now saying they would have liked to have cut off somebody's tongue if they say this again.

i just want to see where it goes and if there are more moderate voiceses that can bring balance to a party that seems out of control. thank you both for your time this evening. coming up, you know the phrase. and you love the phrase. >> fired up! ready to go! >> who knew there was an incredible story behind it? the woman who gave the president his rallying cry joins us next. . i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't work on runny noses. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have an antihistamine. really? [ male announcer ] really. alka-seltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a fast acting antihistamine to relieve your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪

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fired up! ready to go! fired up! ready to go! >> fired up, ready to go. it's of course president obama's signature rallying cry. and it's been that way since 2007. as we know, this did not begin by accident. he adopted it after a spur of the moment trip to south carolina five years ago. p last monday on election eve, the last campaign of his

political career, president obama told the story behind the chant. >> we landed in greenville, sou south carolina, i'm wiped out. i think a cold's coming on. and i open up the curtains to try to get light to wake me up, but it's pouring down rain. terrible storm. by the time i'm in the car, i'm wet and i'm mad and still kind of sleepy. p you but it turns out greenville is several hours away from every place else. so we drive and we drive and we drive. and we pull up to a small fieldhouse. and she was going to organize a little meeting for us and we walk in and there were about 20 people there and they're all kind of wet, too, and they don't look very excited to see me. but i'm running for president, so i do what i'm supposed to do

and i say how to you do, nice to meet you. and i'm making my way around the room and suddenly i hear this wo voice cry out behind me, fired up. and i'm startled and i don't know what's going on. but they act like this is normal. and when the voice says fired up, they all say ready to go. i continu around, there's a small woman, about 60 years old, looks like she just came from church. so for the next few minutes, she just keeps on saying fired up. and everybody says fired up and she says ready to go and everybody says ready to go. and i'm thinking, you know, this woman is showing me up. now, here's the thing. after a few minutes, i'm feeling kind of fired up. i'm feeling like i'm ready to

go. so i start joining in the chant. my staff starts joining in the chant. and i feel pretty good. for the rest of the day, even after we left greenwood, even though we still weren't getting any big crowds anyplace, even though people still cooperauldn pronounce my name, i felt good. and i'd see my staff and i'd say are you fired p up. they would say, fired up. are you ready to go? we're ready to go. >> joining me now is the woman the president was talking about. edith childs. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> let me ask you, what did you think when you heard the president tell that story last week? >> well, i sat there and i kind of wondered why, you know.

you just did what you have to do and you do it because it's the right thing to do at that time. and when i heard him, i just kind of sit there, oh, my goodness. he's talking about me. so it was nice to hear him. >> take us back to 2007. what impression did you get from him on that rainy day this greenwood, south carolina? >> well, first of all, when he came in, it wasn't really a fieldhouse, it was actually the civic center. and there was 38 of us. not many from 20, but 38. and he began to tell us why he wanted to be president and some things that he would like to do. of course i was impressed with it. and then robert an attorney there said you need to say fired up for the senator.

and i'm saying, no, i don't need to do that, i just came to rely come him to greenwood. and he said you got to do it. so i said okay, fine. so after he finished his speech and he began to greet all of us and i waited until he got about middle ways of the line of greeting us, and i began to say fired up, fired up. ready to go. fired up. >> now, you spoke about the chant in the obama -- in an obama campaign ad this year. why did you do that? >> well, because he was the kind of person that i felt that i was comfortable in committing to, helping to do whaetever i could do to get him elected for a second term. it was so important to me as well as to other people all over the united states. >> now, he's told the story that he had invited you to come and join him last week and you said

you had to stay home and get him elected. so i guess you're still fired up. >> i am. i am. what happened, i had gotten a group people from greenwood, we had gotten together and we were going to go up to -- we thought we was going to gastonia, but we got the call to go to concord so that's where we went. and it was a joy for us to be there and meet and greet those folk. and almost all the doors we knocked on, those people was in favor of the president. and it was just an honor for us to do that. and then on our way back, we got another call, we had to stop in charlotte. and we got to charlotte and there was 250 to 300 young people there ready waiting to go out on the next day. and i fired them up and they were so fired up when i left, they were crying and i thought

what did i do to them, but they were just overjoyed because i stopped by to just fire them up for that day. >> well, we are very appreciate tip of you joining us tonight. great story. edith childs, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton for having me. new trident layers juicy berry + tangy tangerine

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